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of their revolution." i'm joined now by jon leyne in cairo. first of all, what's the scene in tahrir square, where i know there was a plan for a huge demonstration. what is happening? >> thousands have already taken to the streets. many thousands. we are back to the days of february. tahrir square behind me is absolutely full of people and there are still people streaming in. who knows what the numbers are? they're certainly in the many tens of thousands. people are saying the second revolution. somebody said tonight, "this is our second revolution." they are also talking about setting up a camp, once again, and not leaving until they get their demands. this is a confrontation i think many of us expected to happen. course, when president hosni mubarak went, many of the people running the country did not go. many people are still there in power. >> we are looking at some pictures while you speak of the crowds in tahrir square. the looks relatively cocalm. there have been fears of violent confrontation. do you think that my uncle today -- do you think that might unfold today? >> the police and army de
and compensation for their relatives. our world affairs correspondent, jon brain, is in oslo and has spoken to one of the survivors from the island. >> more and more he details are emerging of what happened on that island, as anders breivik carried out his 90-minute gun rampage. some of the information coming from the survivors who had a particular trauma there. ivan is one of them. ivan, you actually came pretty much face to face with the gunman. tell me what happened. >> well, when he started shooting, we ran down to the water on the back side of the island, and i tried to hide behind some rocks, but there were too many of us to hide, and up to 40, 45 minutes, he came out, and he saw us and he told us that we were from the police and he was safe. i didn't believe him, and some of the other guys did, and he shot them. and he started shooting around me, and he got several several of the guys around me, and then he had to reload his gun. and then i got my chance to get away, and i run into the water, and i started swimming. i got my clothes off, boots off, and started swimming. >> was he still firi
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